Upstream Podcast with Dr. Tracy White
The Upstream Podcast invites listeners into a movement for educational equity and social change. Each episode features change agents and system builders working to expand access, opportunity, and excellence in education regardless of zip code. Together, we explore how education fuels social mobility, strengthens communities, and creates lasting, equitable impact. Like, follow, and subscribe!
The Upstream Podcast invites listeners into a movement for educational equity and social change. Each episode features change agents and system builders working to expand access, opportunity, and excellence in education regardless of zip code. Together, we explore how education fuels social mobility, strengthens communities, and creates lasting, equitable impact. Like, follow, and subscribe!
Episodes
Jul 25, 2026
Jul 25, 2026
36 min
Can music do more than inspire?
In this episode of Upstream Podcast, Dr. Tracy White sits down with Dr. Ana Trevino, Director of Prelude Music Foundation, to explore the powerful connection between music, brain development, literacy, and early childhood education.
Together, they navigate the science behind music's impact on learning, why it strengthens language, reading, math, and social-emotional development, and why every child deserves access to music regardless of their ZIP code.
Whether you're an educator, parent, school leader, or advocate for children, this conversation offers an inspiring look at how music can help unlock every child's potential.
The Prelude Music Foundation leads developmentally appropriate music and movement classes in early childhood education settings across the city of Houston. We proudly serve 20 sites and more than 3,300 students in underserved communities, Title I schools, and residential sites that support children experiencing illness and trauma. In partnership with schools and educators, Prelude Music Foundation delivers research-based music instruction and professional learning that aligns with the Texas Prekindergarten Guidelines and supports language development, early literacy, vocabulary acquisition, phonological awareness, and social-emotional growth. By intentionally integrating music with evidence-based early learning practices, Prelude Music Foundation equips educators with practical strategies that help young children build the foundational skills they need to thrive in the classroom and beyond. Learn more about their work: https://preludemusicfoundation.org
This episode of The Upstream Podcast is proudly supported by the Evidence Advocacy Center, a nonprofit organization dedicated to advancing evidence-based literacy instruction and improving educational outcomes for all students through advocacy, research, and collaboration.
Learn more about their work:
https://evidenceadvocacycenter.org
Jul 25, 2026
36 min
Jun 27, 2026
Jun 27, 2026
34 min
Dr. Tracy White welcomes Dorian Cockrell, Vice President of Global Philanthropy at JPMorgan Chase, for a thought-provoking conversation about opportunity, workforce development, philanthropy, artificial intelligence, and building generational wealth. Their discussion explores why education must evolve to prepare people for the future of work, why opportunity begins with belief, and how investing in people can transform entire communities generationally.
A special thank you to this episode's sponsors, the International Dyslexia Association Austin TX and Virginia Branches!
"Together, we support Structured Literacy and evidence-based reading instruction for all learners—including multilingual language learners. Websites: https://aus.dyslexiaida.org , https://va.dyslexiaida.org Promo Code: UPSTREAM"
Jun 27, 2026
34 min
May 30, 2026
May 30, 2026
38 min
Dr. Tracy White sits down with literacy advocate and nonprofit leader Dr. Tracy Johnson Rockmore for a deeply personal conversation about dyslexia, faith, and the fight for literacy justice.
After years of being labeled “slow” and struggling through school without proper support, Dr. Rockmore shares how a late dyslexia diagnosis transformed her life and led to the creation of Vessels of Hope, a nonprofit serving children and adults with learning differences. Together, they unpack the emotional impact of illiteracy, why literacy is a human rights issue, and how educators can help children reclaim hope, identity, and purpose.
A special thank you to this episode's sponsors, Raise Your Hand Texas, and the International Dyslexia Association Austin TX and Virginia Branches!
"Our mission at Raise Your Hand Texas is to create a vibrant civic culture where Texans vote, engage lawmakers and their neighbors, and act together to champion public education in their communities and at the state capitol. For more information, visit https://www.raiseyourhandtexas.org/
"Together, we support Structured Literacy and evidence-based reading instruction for all learners—including multilingual language learners. Website: https://aus.dyslexiaida.org , https://va.dyslexiaida.org/
Promo Code: UPSTREAM"
May 30, 2026
38 min

Apr 24, 2026
Apr 24, 2026
1 hr 1 min
In this episode of Upstream, Dr. Tracy White is joined by Dr. Ioulia Kovelman to examine the neuroscience of language and literacy.
They dissect how children acquire language, what bilingualism reveals about the brain, and why applied literacy science is critical for long-term success. This conversation connects research to real-world application for educators, leaders, and families working to improve literacy outcomes.
Explore more at drtracywhite.com
A special thank you to this episode's sponsors, Raise Your Hand Texas, and the International Dyslexia Association Austin TX and Virginia Branches!
"Our mission at Raise Your Hand Texas is to create a vibrant civic culture where Texans vote, engage lawmakers and their neighbors, and act together to champion public education in their communities and at the state capitol. For more information, visit https://www.raiseyourhandtexas.org/
"Together, we support Structured Literacy and evidence-based reading instruction for all learners—including multilingual language learners. Website: https://aus.dyslexiaida.org , https://va.dyslexiaida.org/
Promo Code: UPSTREAM"
Apr 24, 2026
1 hr 1 min
Mar 21, 2026
Mar 21, 2026
49 min
Dr. Tracy White welcomes her spiritual sister and friend Dr. Martha Salazar-Zamora, 2023 Texas Superintendent of the Year and a national finalist, for an honest conversation about what it takes to lead public education in a polarized era.
*This interview took place at the end of 2024, some events may have developed or changed since the recoding of this episode.*
A special thank you to this episode's sponsor, Raise Your Hand Texas!
Our mission at Raise Your Hand Texas is to create a vibrant civic culture where Texans vote, engage lawmakers and their neighbors, and act together to champion public education in their communities and at the state capitol. For more information, visit RaiseYourHandTexas.org
Mar 21, 2026
49 min

Feb 6, 2026
Feb 6, 2026
1 hr 5 min
Dr. Tracy White sits down with nationally recognized literacy advocate and dyslexia consultant Clarice Jackson for a deeply personal conversation about purpose, policy, and the fight for literacy as a human right. Clarice shares how her daughter’s educational suffering and eventual breakthrough transformed her into an advocate, leading to the creation of the Voice Advocacy Center and the Black Literacy Matters movement.
Feb 6, 2026
1 hr 5 min
Jan 8, 2026
Jan 8, 2026
49 min
Dr. Tracy White welcomes award winning actor and author Ameer Baraka for a powerful conversation on dyslexia, literacy, and redemption. Ameer shares how being undiagnosed in school shaped his self worth, led him toward the streets, and how learning to read in prison became the turning point that changed his life. This episode challenges us to look upstream at the systems we have built and to recognize the untapped potential that emerges when literacy finally meets opportunity.
Intro Music By: Robin Lorraine
Jan 8, 2026
49 min
Dec 6, 2025
Episode 1 - The Power of a Parent’s Vision
Dec 6, 2025
Dec 6, 2025
34 min
Dr. Tracy White opens the Upstream Podcast with a heartfelt conversation with her mother, Bessie Mae White. Together they explore resilience, literacy, faith, and the power of a parent’s vision to transform generations. This episode reminds us why educators matter and how one person’s belief can change a child’s life.
Intro Music By: Robin Lorraine
Dec 6, 2025
34 min




